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Tour Watch 1997
(Archive 4: 4/23/97 - 5/14/97)
See The 1997 Tour pages for full 1997 touring details.

Tour-Related Rumors, Snoopings, News Releases

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From: csny@iol.it
Date: Wed, 14 May 97 17:21:34
Subject: European dates are STILL changing

As a matter of fact, I've just heard from the local promoter that the Italian dates in Ferrara and Torino are almost definitely off.

Dates in Spain and Portugal are still tentative.

If anyone can help with a DEFINITIVE tour-list, this would help the poor souls who are trying to book their holidays to go to the shows.

Lookout Mama ? Cinnamon Girl ? LOOKOUT MANAGEMENT (Frank) ???

I wonder why things are always so difficult w/Neil....


From: David Lybrand <lybrand@HyperRust.org>
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 15:15:02 -0500
Subject: Widespread Panic pulls out of H.O.R.D.E.

The MTV web site is carrying a story that Widespread Panic is pulling out of the H.O.R.D.E. tour because:

> "...the H.O.R.D.E. camp did not honor agreements it 
> made with the band about the bill for the tour and 
> the times the band would take the stage.
> "We had a deal since March and only this week learned 
> the tour organizers weren't going to live up to it. We 
> have to move on at this point," the band's management 
> declared.
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:48:17 -0700
Subject: Lionel H.O.R.D.E.

According to this week's issue of Amusement Business:

"The H.O.R.D.E. Festival has a train theme this year and will feature Lionel Trains, who will occupy their own tent on the concourse. Lionel will debut new technology with a massive switching yard and train set. Festival attendees will be encouraged to operate the controls of this interactive display, and the train theme will be constant throughout all stage design and artwork."

From: Miguel Laborinho <mnlabori@mail.telepac.pt>
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:25:58 +0200
Subject: Neil Young NOT at Cascais, Portugal?

Here in Lisbon, a Portuguese music-paper called BLITZ writes today (May 13) that Neil Young is not performing at Cascais (June 1) because the 1997 European Tour is starting earlier than expected

(HyperRust editor's note: I think Miguel means "later than expected".)
and the Portuguese organization should accept some other date, which they say is not possible. It's the third confirmed show in Portugal that is never going to happen!


From: bmeek@cleaf.com
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:38:27 -0500
Subject: H.O.R.D.E. at Dallas

Got a flyer from Texas Tickets (a legal scalping place in Dallas -- Texas has no laws about reselling tickets for a higher price, and that sucks). It had a list of upcoming show dates and then a list of shows that are supposed to be coming. It had Neil and H.O.R.D.E. listed. No date yet, but hopefully it will be listed soon and not just be a rumour.

From: Abigail Martin Maldonado <martin@doctormusic.com>
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:34:52 -0700
Subject: Neil Young not at Doctor Music Festival

Sorry, Neil Young is not going to be in the Doctor Music Festival '97. The final list of bands performing at the Festival is already on the Doctor Music page.

From: Peter F <pietr@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 12:00:58 -0800
Subject: First HORDE show

I have it from VERY reliable sources that the first HORDE date will be July 11 at the Shoreline Ampitheatre in Mountain View, CA.


From: Marlajfish@aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 18:06:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Irvine Meadows?

Staff at Irvine Meadows told me this morning they had just found out that HORDE would be coming to Irvine, CA, this summer. No further info available. It seems unlikely the tour would play Irvine if they were also playing Blockbuster Pavilion.

From: moosie@webtv.net (Elvis Wall)
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 12:28:37 -0600
Subject: More on Wolf Mountain

I read in the Salt Lake Tribune Calendar section yesterday that Neil Young and Crazy Horse tickets go on sale next Saturday May 17 at 9 am MST, for Neil's concert scheduled for July 15 at Wolf Mountain in Park City, Utah (which is 35 miles east from Salt Lake City). Tickets available at SMITH'S TIX 1-800-888-TIXX or V.I.P. Package 801-649-5401.

Scheduled additonal bands are Primus and Big Head Todd. You may want to e-mail United Concerts at: feedback@uconcerts.com.


From: Marc Hoffeld <marc.hoffeld@santel.lu>
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 11:29:37 +0200
Subject: Neil Young in Luxembourg !

Hi everyone,

Here is the confirmation for the concert of Neil Young and Crazy Horse in Luxembourg on June 9th (a place called Kockerscheuer 5 km from Luxembourg City). Neil Young (according to my normally well informed sources) will also stay in Luxembourg June 8th to rehearsal his summer tour.


From: lostinct@snet.net
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 07:59:14 -0400
Subject: Hartford

The Calendar section of the Thursday, 5/8/97 Hartford Courant reported that it was a very good possibility that Neil and the HORDE show would be stopping by The Meadows on August 13. Last year this paper was way wrong so who knows. Just thought I would pass it along.


From: Matt Sebastian <matts@aros.net>
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 13:48:24 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Beck joins HORDE tour

See Addicted To Noise article.

From: Lookout Joe <jstew@pop.erols.com>
Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 09:24:52 -0400
Subject: HORDE at Camden, NJ

There was a note in today's Philadelphia Inquirer saying the HORDE Festival will be stopping at the E Center in Camden NJ (where Neil played last year) this summer. There was no date given, just "tickets on sale soon".

Lookout Joe

From: Matt Sebastian <matts@aros.net>
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:29:04 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: HORDE in Utah

HORDE will be coming to Utah July 15, at Wolf Mountain (near Park City, I believe). Ticket sale date TBA...

Matt Sebastian

From: Shawn McCorkle <newcomer@netusa1.net>
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 08:14:02 -0600
Subject: HORDE at Deer Creek

Talked to my Deer Creek source yesterday, and he said HORDE is a definite for Deer Creek in Noblesville, Indiana. He was right last year when I posted in advance then. So we'll see about this time. My video camera is ready!!!!!

Shawn McCorkle - Just Riding My Llama

From: JFitts1612@aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 00:48:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Dallas?

The Dallas Morning News stated on May 4 that, according to a HORDE source, NY and the HORDE tour will hit Dallas, probably in late August.

From: Wim Defoort <Wim.Defoort@rug.ac.be>
Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 17:31:38 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: Neil Young Brussels (official)

Today on Studio Brussel came the official announcement: Neil Young & Crazy Horse on June 18th at Vorst Nationaal, Brussels. The opening act is Seahorses, the new group of John Squire (ex-Stone Roses).

Vorst Nationaal (capacity 8000) is much smaller than Flanders Expo (capacity 12000). Thank you Neil!

The cost of tickets is 1120 BFR, but if you buy them by phone they charge you 1200BFR. But it's better to buy them by phone NOW, because they won't be available in the usual agencies (if stil available) until the 17th of May. You can order them by phone at 070/344 111 or 070/345 345. There's a secured postal cost of 250 BFR, so it's better to order more than 1 ticket per purchase.

For more information you can mail me private! See You !

Wim Defoort

From: David Lybrand <lybrand@HyperRust.org>
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 19:13:11 -0500
Subject: Taping H.O.R.D.E.

From the news on the POLLSTAR site:

> Every show will feature a special live concert taping
> section at both the main and second stage locations.
> H.O.R.D.E. organizers promise that fans will be able to
> tape the concert in its entirety because of drum tight
> scheduling and the fact that no two bands will play at
> the same time.
> Also, music from both stages will be piped through
> the PA systems at the opposing stage, allowing fans to
> hear every band on the bill.

From: Sketch <mrsketch@virginia.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:19:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: More HORDE Dates

From another mailing list:

> OK kids, peeled these off the Big Head Todd
> hotline - these are all of the shows they are playing.

> july 12 the gorge-seattle,wa
> 13 portland meadows-portland,or
> 15 shoreline-sanfrancisco
> 17 blockbuster-Los Angeles
> 18 Desert sky pavillion-phoenix,ar
> 20 fiddlers green- denver,co
> 22 Olkahoma city tba
> 23 sandstone-kansas city,mo
> 24 riverport-st.louis

From: "Peter A. Rogerson" <progerso@csci.csc.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:12:33 -0400
Subject: Great Woods Tickets

Tickets on sale for the Great Woods HORDE fest Saturday May 10.

From: Dave Katz <djk0921@geopsun.tamu.edu>
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 15:54:32 -0600
Subject: More Austin rumors...

Hi everyone,

I received the following reply from Star Tickets in Austin, after asking if they had any news about a Southpark Meadows date for HORDE:


Thanks for visiting our site. The good news is the Horde festival is returning to South Park Meadows this summer!! Neil Young will be the featured performer! Watch the Chronicle and our web site for the on-sale and show dates.

Let's hope this time it's for real!


From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 11:05:22 -0400
Subject: Lotsa New Europe dates

Check out The 1997 Tour pages for the details.

Looks like Neil's really making up for past omissions this year. Besides the 4 Italian dates booked earlier, and his playing Utrecht rather than Ahoy, he's now planning 4 dates in Spain (along with the Portugal one), and a date in Slovenia! There's also a new date set for Belgium.
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: Zumafan@aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:19:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Entertainment Weekly

Just got my Entertainment Weekly in the mail and here's what the Music Special addition says about our man:

H.O.R.D.E (July 11 through Sept 1) Sporting as many former Lollapaloozers as hacky-sack-nation jam bands, this year's HORDE is surprisingly strong. Crusty headliner Neil Young - who turned down Lollapalooza last year - certainly won't offend hippie sensibilities, but oddball alt-rockers Soul Coughing, Morphine, and Kula Shaker should draw a more diverse crowd than HORDE'S of yore. Even so, expect plenty of noodle dancing during sets by Big Head Todd and the Monsters, Widespread Panic, and Blues Traveler (who'll sit in on a few dates).
Notice the July 11th date. Previous reports were that H.O.R.D.E. kicks off on July 12th.

My Old Corvette

From: Lookout Mama
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 21:59:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tour news on Lookout Mama Report.

From: Marc Hoffeld <marc.hoffeld@santel.lu>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 21:29:08 +0200
Subject: Neil Young in Luxembourg

According to well informed sources, Neil Young will play in Luxembourg on June 8th or 9th.

From: Raymond Deroy <deroyr@alleg.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 97 21:21:53 -0400
Subject: No Blues Traveler at Great Woods?

The Great Woods web page now has the list of artists, but it no longer lists Blues Traveler. So it looks like Blues Traveler won't be at this show. Damn.

~~Black Falcon~~

From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 16:53:49 -0500
Subject: Beck close to joining H.O.R.D.E.

Story on today's MSN Music Central.
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: Dan Fisher <dfisher@bucknell.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 18:45:59 -0700
Subject: Neil news in Rolling Stone

Just picked up the newest Rolling Stone today (Jewel on the cover). There was an article about John Popper, mentioning that he will be playing three of the H.O.R.D.E. festival's 35! dates:

Dan Fisher
Lookin' for a Love

From: Bill Shaw <bshaw@skyway.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 17:13:21 -0700
Subject: Widespread Neil Young Panic (?)

A friend of mine who is very hard core Widespread Panic fan says that latest rumor in the Panic camp is that they will be Neil's backup band at the HORDE shows.

Insert grains of salt where appropriate, but don't say you didn't hear it here first!

-Bill (on the beach)

From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 15:41:51 -0400
Subject: Blues Traveler on the Bill

The Great Woods web site is now showing Blues Traveler as being on the bill with Neil at the show there Aug 8. They're only playing a few of the H.O.R.D.E. dates this time around.
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: AWGRAYAREA@aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:17:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: CSNY at Kent for May 4?

There have been rumors circulating in the Cleveland media about Neil joining CSN at Kent in the afternoon on May 4 and/or at the Agora Theatre in Cleveland that night. There were also plenty of rumors about Neil showing at the opening concert for the Rock Hall two years ago, and those didn't pan out, so I'm skeptical.

Still, Kent is only 40 minutes away (and my wife is a Kent grad), so I plan to be at both just in case. The worse thing that can happen? -- you only get to see CSN. Sounds worth the risk to me.

Out on the Main Line

From: Route-66@t-online.de (wolf arnold)
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 23:18:34 -0700
Subject: German Dates

Hi, just two confirmations for the June 20 & 21 shows:
June 20, Bad Toelz (near Munich), former US Army Base;
tickets: DM 70,- / tickets by phone: +49 89 1401126.

June 21, Stuttgart, Schleyer-Halle. Tickets on sale!

From: RichRin@aol.com
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 16:56:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: SPAC....Bad News, Good News

SPAC (Saratoga, NY) announced its first round of summer concerts today and HORDE is not yet on the list. However the Albany paper mentioned that although Lollapalooza was not likely to return, HORDE is still rumored for an August 10th date at SPAC.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.


From: Weber@iks.s.eunet.de
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 97 10:44:36 GMT
Subject: Neil 21.June in Stuttgart

Jappadappadappa DUUUUUUU!
He`s coming to my hometown !!!!
To my HOMETOWN !!!!

After 3 days not reading the rust list, yesterday evening I was coming home. In my Mailbox was the ticket for Hannover and a short notice from a friend, that Neil will come to our town. I couldn`t believe it, but this morning it is confirmed:

NEIL YOUNG plays in STUTTGART/Germany on June, 21.1997, Hans-Martin-Schleyerhalle. Tickets-sale: Tel.: 0711-1635321 (SKS Erwin Rust), dial 0049-711-1635321 from outside of Germany / Fax: 0711-1635330

I can`t still believe it !! but it`s true

I offer to all rusties my help : byuing tickets, arranging hotelrooms, up to 6 persons can sleep in my house, rust-fest, car/shuttle service and so on.... Please feel free to give me a note to arrange things

Greetings from a "super happy "

From: Ward de Jager <ward@ic.uva.nl>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 17:19:06 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: More on Utrecht (June 17)

It has just been confirmed: Neil Young will be playing at the Prins van Oranje Hal in Utrecht, The Netherlands on June 17th. The day YOTH will be released. Tickets will be 55 guilders plus "servicecosts" and go on sale on Saturday, 3 May, at the usual agents plus all postoffices. They can also be ordered by phone on 06-300125 but then you'll have to collect them within one week at a Dutch postoffice.


From: Willem Bemboom <bemboom@worldonline.nl>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 17:15:13 +-200
Subject: Neil in Holland

Neil is officially confirmed to play a show in Holland on June 17. The event will take place at the Prins van Oranjehal in the city of Utrecht.

From: Thomas Uhle <tu631@bingo.baynet.de>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 21:41:17 -0700
Subject: June 20th show (Bad Toeltz)

Hello you folks,

The show in Bad Toelz, Germany, is confirmed for June 20th on an old U.S.Army estate. Tickets are on sale right now, the phone number is +49 (0)8061 7356, but actually I donīt know the prices.

Thomas Uhle (from Ingolstadt, Bavaria, Germany)

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