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Tour Watch 1997
(Archive 6: 6/3/97 - 6/20/97)
See The 1997 Tour pages for full 1997 touring details.

Tour-Related Rumors, Snoopings, News Releases

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From: John Metzger <metzge19@idt.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:27:10 -0700
Subject: HORDE, Tinley Park and Alpine Valley

The scoop on Tinley Park and Alpine Valley is as follows:

Tickets on sale (both): 6/21 at 10am.
Tinley show: Aug 3, 2:30
Alpine show: Aug 2, 3:30
Tickets: $32.75 advance, 37.75 day of show

Performers: Neil Young/Crazy Horse, Beck, Morphine, Primus, Kula Shaker, Ben Folds Five, Toad the Wet Sprocket, Leftover Salmon, Medeski Martin & Wood (Tinley Park Only)

John Metzger

From: Mark Klus <mklus@netaxs.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:58:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: HORDE confirmed for Camden NJ


Okay, I've called the Sony E-Centre and Electric Factory separately today and was told the HORDE will be in Camden on Sunday, Aug.17. Tickets will be $33.00 + charges, so let's estimate $40.00. They go on sale on Monday, June 30. As far as I know, there will be no limit on numbers of tix per person.

When I called Ticketmaster, they had no info on Camden yet, but are selling tix at $32.50 a piece plus charges, for the HORDE at Montage Mountain (near Scranton, PA) on Wednesday August 20.

Peace & Rust
Mark (Powderfinger) / mklus@netaxs.com

From: Reto Wieduwilt <widu@bluewin.ch>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:52:35 +0100
Subject: News from the Swiss organizers


Just got the e-news of the Swiss organizers ... They have received a medical certificate stating that Neil definitely cut his finger May 21st and that the wound needs at least 2 or 3 weeks for healing.

May 21st???? Wasn't the canceled Catalyst show supposed to be on May 20th? Did they mix up the date when the certificate was written with the date of the accident? It does say the ham accident happened May 21st.

Some voices from sources out of the organizing committee I know say that Neils' concert was never really definitely confirmed ....

Also I have heard that a Swiss newspapers journalist called several other festivals about any talk of a "financial upgrade". They all knew nothing about it ...

Rumours, rumours .... but no Neil definitely ... at least I got YOTH last Saturday. This will be my last posting about the Swiss organizers. This chapter is closed for me ...

From: Fmills3@aol.com
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 21:17:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Charlotte h.o.r.d.e. tix on-sale

Tonight (Tuesday) a Charlotte FM station is announcing that the Charlotte, NC, Blockbuster Pavilion, Aug. 15, HORDE tickets go on-sale this Friday at 10.a.m. (courtesy demons Ticketmaster...). Funnily enough, the blurb I heard went, "special guests, Neil Young." Plural, ah-- Neil and finger... Neil and persona... ok.

From: sund@norfolk.infi.net (Eric Sundquist)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 21:14:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: VA Beach

Got a confirmation of the Virginia Beach show from a fax from the marketing department at the GTE Virginia Beach Amphitheater. Any band-name misspellings (I think it's Cake Like, not Cakelike, but I may be wrong) are theirs:

 > Subject: H.O.R.D.E.
 > Date: Wednesday, August 13
 > On Sale Date: Thursday, July 3
 > Mainstage: Neil Young & Crazy Horse, Primus,
 >            Toad the Wet Sprocket, Soul Coughing
 > Second stage: Kula Shaker, Leftover Salmon,
 >               Ween, Cakelike
That's it. No prices or times.

Some Get Strange
(Eric Sundquist)

From: canyonfreak@webtv.net (Toby Germano)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:05:47 -0700
Subject: Neil's Finger update

My dad saw Neil in his store in Woodside yesterday, and Neil wasn't wearing any kind of bandage or wrapping on his finger. Could it be he's almost healed? Let's hope so!

Canyon Freak

From: TOMC@prodigy.net
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:35:46 -0400
Subject: Montage Mountain Show

Hi, it's Sunday 7:30 p.m. in Philly. I just checked the HORDE web site and they list Montage Mountain AS ON SALE TODAY. Show date is August 20. All tickets 32.50. No other site I check for shows has the info as of now, except the TicketMaster on-line in that area.


From: SNR726@aol.com
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 09:08:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: HORDE Great Woods Aug 9?

Hi all:

I was listening to WZLX (Boston) on Friday morning and heard The Big Mattress show and he played Sedan Delivery from YOTH.

The other thing he said was that one of his announcers on his show had tickets to the HORDE show on August 9th, not August 8th. They were wondering if in fact there is a show on the 9th and Great Woods hasn't officially announced it yet, or if the guy got snookered. As far as I know August 9th is still a rumor, right?


From: RSampimon@jbwere.com.au
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 15:18:19 +1000
Subject: Neil Young to tour Australia?

A local newspaper, the Herald Sun, reported on Thursday that NY is going to tour Australia in February next year. An official announcement won't be due until later in the year.

All I can say is "About time Neil". This will be the third time he will be in Oz.

Sheila, could you ask Lookout if there is any substance at all to the rumors. Thanks!

Your local Down Under Reporter

From: Lookout Mama
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:04:56 -0400
Subject: Tour news on Lookout Mama Report.

From: Lookout Mama
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:15:58 -0400
Subject: Tour news on Lookout Mama Report.

From: Andrew Ditmore <aditmore@interactive.visa.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:55:18 -0400
Subject: Nissan on-sale date

I just heard on the Nissan Pavillion info line (800-455-8999) that tickets for the August 16th HORDE show go on sale Saturday, June 21, at 10am. Prices have not been announced yet.

From: Blockbuster Pavilion <jszudzik@wsocfm.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:51:08 -0700
Subject: HORDE at Charlotte Blockbuster

HORDE has just confirmed (officially) and will be announced on radio Friday at 5 p.m. Details will be placed onto the Blockbuster Pavilion website. It will be August 15, and tickets go onsale at 10 a.m. Saturday, June 21.

From: AWGRAYAREA@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:03:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: HORDE at Star Lake

Spiritualized's record label issued a press release today (6/11) saying the band would be playing a HORDE show 8/20 at Star Lake in Burgettstown, Pa. That would go along with the Soul Coughing info.

Out on the Main Line

From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 10:12:15 -0400
Subject: HORDE Aug 13 & 20 & 21

You figure it out...

Pollstar says:
Aug 13: (no show listed)
Aug 20: (no show listed)
Aug 21: Virginia Beach
Toad the Wet Sprocket web site says:
Aug 13: Virginia Beach
Aug 20: Montage Mountain (Scranton)
Aug 21: Star Lake (Pittsburg)
Soul Coughing web site says:
Aug 13: Montage Mountain
Aug 20: Star Lake
Aug 21: Virginia Beach
There's a report of the HORDE folks visiting Montage Moutain late last week, and I've gotten word that the show is "almost confirmed". But none of the web sites for the three venues have anything listed as scheduled on any of those dates as of right now.
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 20:23:05 -0400
Subject: Live Oak HORDE Confirmed

I've received word that the contracts for the August 23 HORDE show at Suwannee Park (by Live Oak) have been signed. They're busy with a B.B.King show there this weekend, but expect more details on their web site next week.
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: O. White" <white@claudia.pauls.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 17:41:32 -0500
Subject: No Texas HORDE

Just got off the phone with Lookout. (Sorry Lookout Mama, I had to take the bull by the horns.) HORDE will NOT be coming to TX. They were "sorry about that" too.

Ophelia White

From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 09:39:39 -0400
Subject: Neil's finger: What Happened

From sources that I consider pretty reliable, it looks like this is the story of what happened (no smileys or anything, this isn't a spoof):

Now I cannot swear this story is true, but my sources claim that it is. And it doesn't seem too contrived. Especially since both the hang-nail and the cut finger reports came out a fair while before the Euro-tour cancellation.

To me, it makes more sense than the various conspiracy theories. "Occam's razor", and all that...
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: Jody Eaton <wjeaton@theriver.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 16:21:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Phoenix Horde tix

Just got off the phone with Desert Sky Pavillion and was given the following info for 18 July HORDE (I think by accident, because I called back to ask another question and was told that info was not released to general public yet, wanted to know who I had talked to, etc... ooops!   :-)

Tickets go on sale June 14th. Reserved seats will be $33.25, lawn $25.25 (plus ticketmaster fees of course).

Kind Woman

From: TOMC@prodigy.net
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 14:22:25 -0400
Subject: Scranton Venue

The venue in Scranton would most likely be Montage Mountain Ski Resort. Actually up in the Poconos. They have concerts there in summer. My son Dave, the Phishead, has been to a couple. He says its a nice open air venue. Local Philly radio station WMMR sponsers a lot of gatherings there.

Just called Montage, the girl that answered said HORDE people were there yesterday to look at the place,but she didn't have an answer or info,yet.

From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 11:12:13 -0400
Subject: Other Penn HORDE dates?

I've seen a report that HORDE will be at Star Lake on August 21 (rather than Virginia Beach) and in Scranton on August 20. What venue is likely to be used for HORDE around Scranton?
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: wour969@borg.com
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 00:14:46 -0400
Subject: Neil at SPAC is official

Aug 10 @ Saratoga is official. Tix on sale 6/21 10am. $27.50.

Oh yeah the rest of the horde will be there too!

From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 21:43:26 -0400
Subject: Fiddlers Green tickets

Tickets to the July 20th show at Fiddlers Green go on sale on June 9 at 10:00am.
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: Anne" <annhenri@online.no>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:08:47 +0100
Subject: Oslo June 13 refunds

For the folks wondering about The Oslo Norwegian Wood festival, all who want tickets refunded because of the NY & CH cancel: make contact with the same place you ordered your tickets --> BEFORE Tuesday June 10. For more information you can phone Norwegian Wood's info-#: (815 50333) or try here.


From: Kevin Woodward <ksrr@dmv.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 14:03:03 -0400
Subject: HORDE and Blues Traveler

Just found these dates on the official Blues Traveler site:

August 15 - Charlotte, NC - Walnut Creek/HORDE Festival
August 16 - Washington DC - Nissan Pavillion/HORDE Festival
August 17 - Philadelphia, PA -Blockbuster/HORDE Festival
("Walnut Creek" should be "Blockbuster")
Kevin--Union Man

From: MSRX5LJA@fs1.ec.man.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:51:33 BST
Subject: "Neil Young's Blade Stunner"

Hey ho Rustafarians...
There's an article of fancy in the gutter press of UK music publications -- the NME (dated June 7 1997). We all know the story about the sandwich, but look further down within the article....

There it is... Firm evidence that the archives are being released. Well, no, the NME always ends small articles on Young by adding that line about the archives. But what is all the stuff about a bondage club and a techno club? Neil must be having a great time at these venues...

From: jyrki.kimmel@research.nokia.com (Kimmel Jyrki)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 08:09:30 +0200
Subject: Provinssirock refunds + RUMOR!

This just in from the Provinssirock organizers (Neil was scheduled to play there June 15th):

"The Sunday tickets will be refunded in full. You can still use the original Sunday ticket for the festival, and you will then be refunded 40 FIM."
And they continue with the following post scriptum:
"A Swiss reporter called yesterday morning. He is investigating whether there are financial reasons to account for the cancellations... The representatives at St Gallen in Switzerland reportedly lean strongly in that direction. An official notification of cancellation has not reached anyone yet."
It was reported earlier that the headliner for Sunday will be a Finnish band, Kolmas Nainen (Third Woman) who will reunite for this one gig since their breakup 3 years ago.

Jyrki (The Preacher)

From: mraney@mail.utexas.edu (Michael Raney)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 07:40:24 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: HORDE in Texas???

From the June 5 Austin-American Statesman:

"The H.O.R.D.E. tour will also likely be bypassing Austin. A spokesperson for Houston concert promoter Pace, which books Southpark Meadows, said the company won't be bringing the annual summer bash to town, but it still may bring it to Houston or Dallas around Aug. 23. This installment of the tour will be headlined by Neil Young, assuming he recovers from his recent finger-slicing accident."

From: Mark Fochesato <mfochesato@environews.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 12:36:33 -0400
Subject: Hartford Tix Going on sale

The Meadows Music Theatre is advertising tickets going on sale this Saturday (June 7, 1997) for the Hartford HORDE show. The show is on Aug 6, 3PM.


From: Lookout Mama
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 17:01:28 -0400
Subject: Tour news on Lookout Mama Report.

From: Michael Dworschak <MDWO@CompuServe.COM>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:48:14 -0400
Subject: New Europe dates?

Hi there !!
Talked to the local promoter for Wiesen (Austria) today. He told me that they are in contact with Lookout every day and that there could be a "possibility" that Neil will play the Europe dates right after the HORDE tour. This would mean September, and "Open-Air" shows -- because a lot of the European promoters don't have the possibility to arrange indoor shows.

But remember, this is only what the guy from Wiesen told me, so maybe this is only an agreement between Wiesen and Lookout. Nothing is confirmed, so let's hope and pray.


From: Anne <annhenri@online.no>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:17:39 +0100
Subject: Europe in the autumn?

Just got a phone call from my acquaintance at the Norwegian Wood Festival.

European folks -- this is PERHAPS good news -- but it is really way too early yet to rely on:

Very tentively now, the Euro-promoters & mgt folks are now in the process of trying to set up a new round of tour gigs here in Europe. It seems they're now talking about October/November. It won't necessarily be the same arranger-folks, cuz late autumn in Europe will of course mean indoor concerts.

It's way too early to say anything definite about which countries/towns may be on any final tour list.........(if these new tour plans should at all become a reality in themselves).

And at this point I merely say, I'll believe it only when I see it (an Oslo NY concert that is!). But, by golly ... I have never been to a NY indoor concert ... so I just hope this really can come true-!!!

take care,
Lady of the North Star

From: Peter Hohenstein <mirihyel@ruly46.medfac.leidenuniv.nl>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 08:49:14 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: New Euro dates?

Yesterday my girlfriend told me she heard on the radio that allmost all Euro gigs can get a new date this fall. Only a few, among which Holland, could not be rescheduled, and at least in Holland the money was refunded until August 1. I'll try to get this confirmed later today.

burned out basement (who remembers how he felt when he choose his handle)

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