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Tour Watch 1997
(Archive 7: 6/20/97 - 8/05/97)
See The 1997 Tour pages for full 1997 touring details.

Tour-Related Rumors, Snoopings, News Releases

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From: jchiarelli@earthwatch.org (Jim Chiarelli)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 15:57:22 -0500
Subject: Great Woods: New Start Time!!

Attention Aug 8th and Aug 9th HORDE ticket holders:

I just talked to Great Woods about the HORDE start time because apparently there is some conflicting information going around about the time the doors open and about showtime.

As you know, our tickets say 4:00 PM and it was previously announced that the doors would open at 3:00 PM. As of a few minutes ago, the word is that doors open at 2:00 PM and "official" music starts at 3:40 PM. I do not know what "official" means, but I like to think it acknowledges Neil's "unofficial" acoustic set when the doors open. The woman I talked to at GW just now couldn't tell me exactly what "official" meant. "I guess that means the main stage" is what she said. So it's anybody's guess. But that's the story. Gates open at 2:00 PM on Friday and Saturday, and we know Neil's acoustic sets so far have mostly been right after the doors open.

Memory County Jail

From: Curlelil@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 08:53:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Our Leo In Paper

Our very own Leo is in some Newsper this morning. Check it out, at http://www.pioneerplanet.com/docs/home5.htm.


From: Andy Strote <strote@interlog.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:03:54 -0400
Subject: Photo gallery of Neil at Pine Knob

Black's Camera here in Canada has a new service where they will put your shots on the web and allow you to download fairly high quality JPEGs. So I brought a couple of those disposable cameras with me to Pine Knob, and now the shots are on the web.

There are shots of Neil playing his mini-set, Neil and the trains, the Banners, Barb with Ralph Molina, and assorted rusties hanging out and having fun. Computer Cowboy also took one of my cameras backstage and shot Neil during the evening set. A bit dark, but pretty dramatic.

You can download these shots free. Use em for whatever you like. Put em on your Web pages, use em for tape JCards etc. Go to http://blacks.photonet.com and enter name "strote", and the code for roll one: "BPC4717521", or for roll two: "BPC6991661". The shots are up there for 30 days, so get em while they're hot. Hope you like em. Have fun.

Cutlass Supreme

From: jchiarelli@earthwatch.org (Jim Chiarelli)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:05:19 -0500
Subject: Taping is OK at Great Woods!

There has been some confusion as to whether Great Woods was aware that taping is allowed at HORDE shows. We want to avoid a situation where taping is OK with HORDE but the venue ticket-takers and ushers do not seem to know this and give tapers a hard time at the gates and at their seats. I understand that this has happened at a couple of HORDE shows so far.

I have been trying to resolve this question for the Aug. 9th show, and now that I have the answer, I thought I would post it so that Aug. 8th Great Woods show folks would see it as well.

This is directly from my connection at Great Woods:

Taping will be allowed, and although it's not entirely settled yet, it is unlikely that there will be a special tapers area set up.
Memory County Jail

From: CAMMAIL22@mln.lib.ma.us
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:02:31 -0400
Subject: Neil on WBCN

Neil was interviewed on WBCN Boston yesterday at about 4:00pm. His voice was REALLY low and he said it always gets like this after a few days of singing but that he could feel it coming back up higher. He also said the opening acoustic shows depend on how many shows in a row he's done and how his voice is doing.

He was really in good spirits and said he's loving this HORDE tour.

The beginning was funny: at first Neil was on for a few seconds before his cellular phone cut out. Then Elliot called the station saying Neil was going to a different phone but it would be a while. So to kill time, the DJ interviewed Elliot, who proved to be a very funny, intelligent guy.

Alan DerKazarian (Tell Me Why)

From: Pete.Thayer@state.me.us
Date: 30 Jul 1997 13:27:32 -0400
Subject: Neil on Today Show(?)

Hey Happy Horders,
My Mom told me this AM that Neil and the train setup were on The Today Show yesterday (Tues) AM ... said she and my sister were gonna call me but that they had no idea where I was (hmmm, what does that mean?!) <sigh>

Anyone catch it, or see the Today crew filming??

9 days!!

From: Lookout Mama
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 23:56:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tour news on Lookout Mama Report.

From: Dale Hesselroth <drh@dtgi.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:58:37 -5
Subject: HORDE Newspaper ad

I've scanned it and put it up under:

Take a look...

From: Anders Wright <andersw@starwave.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:10:48 -0700
Subject: Portland News on Wall of Sound

Hi there. Wall of Sound recently ran an item about Neil I think you might be interested in checking out. Here's the URL:

Anders Wright

From: jchiarelli@earthwatch.org (Jim Chiarelli)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:17:16 -0500
Subject: Great Woods 2 (Aug 9) update

I just got off the phone with Great Woods. A couple of people have mentioned that report I posted telling of poor ticket sales for this show and wondered if it's really going to happen. I asked Paul about this today.

First off, he said that tickets are selling steadily though they don't expect to sell nearly as many as they have for the Aug 8th show (11,000 last time I heard). Then he said he did hear some vague discussion of this possibility around the office last Friday. Seems like a lot depends on this week's ticket sales. He told me to wait until Monday (the 21st) because any decision to cancel would have to be made by then.

I'll keep you all posted...

Memory County Jail

From: Stephen Wiener <swiener@onramp.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 08:24:10 -0500
Subject: Neil's coming to Texas!!!!!!

Excerpts from an article in this morning's Dallas Morning News:

"A grain gesture from Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has been accepted by Farm Aid founder Willie Nelson. At Jones invitation, the famed country singer's 11th concert benefiting family farmers will be held Saturday, Oct. 4th, in Texas Stadium, The Nashville Network announced Friday. TNN will broadcast the event live from 5 to 11 pm."

"Nelson's partners in Farm Aid, John Mellencamp and Neil Young, will perform at the concert. Other talent and ticket information is to be announced later by the Farm Aid organization."

The article explains that Jerry Jones is offering the use of Texas Stadium rent-free and has also rearranged the Cowboys' schedule so that they will not have a home game that weekend.

So Neil is coming to Texas for the first time since 1993, I've never seen Willie Nelson live, and the concert will be in October when temperatures will be under 100 degrees! Barring any knife accidents by Neil, I will be able to see him shortly after the HORDE tour is over!!!!!

AKA A Man Needs A Maid
(Someone to keep my house clean)

From: Lookout Mama
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 22:58:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tour news on Lookout Mama Report.

From: frc@attmail.com (Ronni Theeman)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 17:23:14 +0000
Subject: HORDE At Jones Beach

Hey Rusties
Just heard on WNEW FM in NYC that HORDE at Jones Beach is a DEFINITE. Tix go on sale Saturday, show is on 8/12. Also, for those of you actually in the NY area, Thursday on WNEW FM has been declared Neil Young Listener Appreciation Thursday.

From: dragon7777@juno.com (Susan A Allen)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:22:39 -0700
Subject: Neil at Portland

The KMTT 103.7 fm radio station in Seattle announced that Neil called them today and let them know his finger is fine. They said that he said he would do an acoustic solo set early in the afternoon, then the final set with Crazy Horse at night.

For the WEB enabled there is an archived audio of the Neil Young phone conversation. This is the site:

A revelation: The sliced finger was NOT caused by a HAM sandwich it was "a piece of crap turkey meat product."

Very pumped up !!

===> Dragon Mom

From: Peter Guilhamet <peterg@redbrick.com>
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 18:21:08 -0700
Subject: HORDE (3 sets of Neil ?)

Hey, here's a nice bit of news (if it turns out to be true): KFOG just announced that Neil has just called them up to tell them to tell us that NY&CH will play 2 sets at this Friday's HORDE opener (at Shoreline) and Neil will also play an acoustic set (perhaps solo?).

I heard it from someone else, but here's hoping for maximum Neil soon!!!

allright w/ me       -Homegrown-

From: Bill Wallace <austex23@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 10:42:04 -0500
Subject: Farm Aid rumor

The sometimes-reliable Austin American Statesman reports that Willie Nelson's crew is looking at either Houston or Dallas for this year's Farm Aid. Maybe there's hope for a Texas show yet . . . .


From: grumpy@mediacom.it
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 07:25:33 +0200
Subject: Elliot Roberts encounter in Italy

Incredible! I met Elliot Roberts in Turin (Italy)! It happened backstage at the David Byrne concert on July 1st. (Lookout also manages Byrne.) We talked a little about Neil. (He confirmed that the finger injury is truth.)

The big news is that they are trying to re-schedule the NY & CH European tour for November '97... (Indoor gigs, obviously.)

Let's see what will happen... (Please, everybody keep your fingers crossed!)

Bye, Grumpy

From: dimamins@ozemail.com.au
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:13:14 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Neil coming to Oz?

This appeared on the Australian Immedia music news page and in several music-related street papers in Australia today. The author is Christie Eliezer:

Neil Young heads back to Australia for his third tour, either later this year or early next. Young's manager Elliott Roberts added it would be with Frontier. "If we toured down there with anyone else, Michael (Gudinski) would kick my ass!" Young, Roberts and Crazy Horse guitarist Frank 'Poncho' Sampedro were talking to Paul Cashmere, executive producer of Aussie-based international CD-ROM magazine Undercover, near Neil's ranch in Woodside, California. Sampedro also asked for regards to be sent to Richard Clapton, whom they nicknamed 'Ralph'.
Explanatory notes: Frontier is Australia's largest booker of US acts. Michael Gudinski is a principal in it and the founder of a large label (Mushroom) in Australia. Richard Clapton was a successful singer-songwriter, now reduced to comparative obscurity.

Eliezer is generally reliable, but perhaps Lookout Mama could check this out, in view of recent denials of any Australian tour plans and the ham sandwich accident/European dates cancellations?


From: Cinnamon Girl
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 00:56:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tour news on Chasing The Moonlight.

From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 10:39:18 -0500
Subject: Beck not playing at PNC?

The web site for PNC Bank Arts Center (aka Garden State Arts Center) now lists Mighty Mighty Bosstones in the slot where Beck was listed before. Anyone going there and hoping to get a dose of Beck with your Neil, looks like you're out of luck...
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: Pete Thayer <Pete.Thayer@state.me.us>
Date: 27 Jun 1997 21:55:22 -0400
Subject: Great Woods (2nd) show date

I again have called Next Ticketing, and the 2nd date is definitely the 9th, and not the 4th...da Globe goofed.


From: john@bosco.dyndns.com (John Bosco)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 97 16:11:10 EDT
Subject: Jones Beach Show CANCELLED?

Before everyone panics, I JUST got off the phone with Lookout, and they told me that there is a show, they even checked the latest itinerary, that says Aug 12th, Jones Beach. No one knows why tickets aren't on sale yet.

I called the promoter and was told "There never was a show, so we had no show to cancel." Which has been their trip all along.

I'll believe Lookout before I believe a promoter any day (being a sound engineer and all).


From: ADerkazarian@CI.Cambridge.MA.US (Alan Derkazarian)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:54:35 -0500
Subject: Great Woods show date?

Today's Boston Globe is reporting that the new HORDE date for Great Woods is on August 4 starting at 4:00pm, with tickets going on sale tomorrow at 10:00am. Pretty weird and I'm betting pretty wrong, too.
Alan DerKazarian (Tell Me Why)

From: ray@nycja.org
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 97 11:13:44 EST
Subject: Jones Beach Show CANCELLED

I just got off the phone with the Jones Beach box office. They told me the HORDE show was CANCELLED. The peoson I spoke with said "they" never confirmed the show.

From: Brian A. Miller <brianm@nh.ultranet.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 18:55:18 -0500
Subject: Second Great Woods Show

Check out this page for confirmation of another Great Woods show on Saturday, August 9th.


From: Lookout Mama
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:18:12 -0400
Subject: Tour news on Lookout Mama Report.

From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:37:08 -0400
Subject: Star Lake confirmed (finally!)

The one date that had never showed up on Pollstar or the HORDE site (though I found it in other places) has finally shown up on the HORDE website and so I'd say that confirms it:

They say tickets on sale JUNE 30.
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: David Lybrand <reactor@HyperRust.org>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 15:59:57 -0400
Subject: Coral Sky official

The Palm Beach Post says Coral Sky is official now, and has one of the lowest ticket pricse I've seen mentioned: all are $27.75. Tickets on sale June 28 at 10am. Just checked their web site, and it's there, too.

Mostly standard support acts: Toad the Wet Sprocket, Soul Coughing, Squirrel Nut Zippers, The Fool (who's that?), Spiritualized, and Leftover Salmon.
. . . RE*AC*TOR

From: VanSmack69@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 23:03:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: HORDE at Vernon Downs

Publicized for the first time in Central New York today was a toll-free number for placing ticket orders. Call (888)745-0195. All phone tickets cost $27.50, plus a $2 service charge. If you wish to have the tix mailed, add on another dollar. Vernon Downs is smack dab in the middle of New York, close to Oneida and Utica.

Don't Spook The Horse

From: A. Banerji <abanerji@uoguelph.ca>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:30:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Neil @ Glastonbury ?

I was checking out one of the many Glastonbury sites (last updated June 18th), and it says the following:

"Sting is playing, in the slot originally set aside for Neil Young (more of him later)."
It then goes on to say:
"Neil Young, after a lot of on and off rumours, is definitely playing, not on the main stage, but The Select stage (which used to be the N.M.E. stage) on Sunday night."
Anyone heard anything about this ? I think it's quite possible that he could play....his finger has probably healed by now.

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